tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post3594369117490555283..comments2024-03-26T05:20:10.232-04:00Comments on Between the By-Road and the Main Road: Evaluating Student Learning: Down the Rabbit HoleMary Ann Reillyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-66018301655775668922011-06-10T19:52:58.751-04:002011-06-10T19:52:58.751-04:00Monika, feeling more like Alice day by day:(Monika, feeling more like Alice day by day:(Mary Ann Reillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-30866306858598135452011-06-10T09:51:03.513-04:002011-06-10T09:51:03.513-04:00it's so hard to even have these conversations ...it's so hard to even have these conversations Mary Ann. so yeah.. i guess i see.<br /><br />i don't know if you've seen this.. but this is how we're trying to redefine any type of formal assessment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odAr0BsBQSM&feature=player_embedded<br /><br />i mean - you have to question what you're spending all your time assessing in the first place. andmonika hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17903730727359304285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-69028129727723135822011-06-06T07:27:34.845-04:002011-06-06T07:27:34.845-04:00@Mary Wow, such insight. Your line, "MC bubb...@Mary Wow, such insight. Your line, "MC bubble tests may look easier, but to me they complicate things by trying to fit a complex person into a black and white system." is so true, especially when that MC test is an epic construct. When I taught, I kept a notebook with pages dedicated for each student and would post in labels where I wd record those anecdotes that happened in class or Mary Ann Reillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-60005867748223998882011-06-06T07:22:57.040-04:002011-06-06T07:22:57.040-04:00@Suzie Just watched my husband struggle all day t...@Suzie Just watched my husband struggle all day to write two final exams (for middle school students) which he is forced to give. Years ago his "finals" were incredible essays that invited out of box thinking and fit how he taught. Now as his teaching has been narrowed and confined he also has been forced to include multiple choice, etc in order for all finals to have a uniform look.Mary Ann Reillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-3751178994821663862011-06-06T01:29:04.205-04:002011-06-06T01:29:04.205-04:00These sort of assessments seem easier in the momen...These sort of assessments seem easier in the moment, but speaking from experience as a first-time teacher doing these sort of things - things modeled to me in the course of my pre-service study - I can tell you it makes for more stress and anguish in the long run. Often I would have anecdotes in my mind of times students demonstrated their learning outside of these cold tests, but then look at Mary Worrellhttp://www.seemaryteach.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-76747552577106477112011-06-05T23:13:34.329-04:002011-06-05T23:13:34.329-04:00I wish I had something more profound to say than s...I wish I had something more profound to say than simply, no, I can see no value to establishing points in time where a single test represents what a learner truly knows. Period. There are so many extraneous factors, especially at the adolescent level.<br /><br />I recently, at the last minute, changed my final exam for 12th grade Government. Literally, four days before the exam, I chucked the Suzie Nesticohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00795452819833909245noreply@blogger.com