tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post4578785065297805515..comments2024-03-26T05:20:10.232-04:00Comments on Between the By-Road and the Main Road: Common Core, Informational Text, and ReadingMary Ann Reillyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-44375373418231308072011-12-04T23:41:16.045-05:002011-12-04T23:41:16.045-05:00I really enjoyed your post. I have had similar que...I really enjoyed your post. I have had similar questions, I.e., does eliminating a lot of narrative and reading more informational truly lead to better learning of informational text? I'm concerned about unanticipated consequences. <br /><br /> I am working through all of the research cited in Appendix A and am currently looking at the studies/articles behind the informational text shift. It Jan Burkinshttp://literacyhead.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-69490109908592155542011-11-17T23:28:30.944-05:002011-11-17T23:28:30.944-05:00The commentaries and appendixes on these standards...The commentaries and appendixes on these standards in particular should be read as political statements aimed at mollifying various political constituencies who won't read the standards themselves particularly closely or know how to interpret them.<br /><br />The whole non-fiction thing is I think a reaction to elementary reading patterns which may be out of whack for a variety of reasons (Tom Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08577165613934129833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-39404352988369068702011-11-17T14:08:43.594-05:002011-11-17T14:08:43.594-05:00@Tom Hoffman:
I think the distinction you make bet...@Tom Hoffman:<br />I think the distinction you make between the commentary and the actual listing of standards is a big idea worth delving into. Thank you. It makes me wonder why the commentary is there? What was the intention? How does one read the commentary? As suggestion? As directive?<br /><br />Already there are textbooks being mass produced that will keep the percentages as I outline Mary Ann Reillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-46290378637419905432011-11-17T14:05:01.011-05:002011-11-17T14:05:01.011-05:00@Michael J. I have watched the video you reference...@Michael J. I have watched the video you referenced and actually participated in a day long Common Core "training" in which David Coleman did a mock lesson as he did in Albany. I recount the event here: http://maryannreilly.blogspot.com/2011/05/learning-from-author-of-common-core.html<br /><br />The challenge with the assumption about critical engagements is that the Common Core Mary Ann Reillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-46679907411645364162011-11-17T13:58:49.361-05:002011-11-17T13:58:49.361-05:00@ Sue, Taste of Haiti was one of the 1500 books in...@ Sue, Taste of Haiti was one of the 1500 books in the library I mentioned. Several learnrrs loved that book. Thanks for joining the convo.Mary Ann Reillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-8672584759648956242011-11-17T13:42:26.372-05:002011-11-17T13:42:26.372-05:00To reiterate what MikeFisher821 said, everything i...To reiterate what MikeFisher821 said, everything in that document that is not an enumerated standard is just commentary, and the page you link to is poorly thought out, misleading, self-contradictory commentary. You understand the Common Core standards LESS after reading that than you do from simply reading the text.<br /><br />The proportion of different text types in the curriculum is outside Tom Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08577165613934129833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-39506685807818969872011-11-17T11:23:12.789-05:002011-11-17T11:23:12.789-05:00I think you've delineated the challenges, but ...I think you've delineated the challenges, but I want to try out some notions of what I think may be opportunities.<br /><br />As I see the state of affairs much of our present teacher work force has not had a chance to develop as natural learners. Should not be a surprise as most have gone through the same education system that has evolved from the needs of a previous society.<br /><br />My MIchael Josefowiczhttps://twitter.com/#!/toughLoveforxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-594021020862852792011-11-16T23:16:22.303-05:002011-11-16T23:16:22.303-05:00>it was not an informational text that spurred ...>it was not an informational text that spurred my interest in El Salvador in the early 1980s, but rather it was poetry.<br /><br />And I learned a lot about Haiti through young adult fiction. (<i>Taste of Salt</i> is a good one.)Sue VanHattumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10237941346154683902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-3446667035438841552011-11-16T22:45:31.803-05:002011-11-16T22:45:31.803-05:00@Mike,
I think there's something to say for th...@Mike,<br />I think there's something to say for the kind of thinking reading/hearing literature might occasion. Agree with you about NAEP. A single measure ought not be the determiner for action at the scale of the Common Core. I'm reading Finnish Lessons and it isn't lost on me that the ways we are 'being reformed' is the opposite of what the author says Finland did.Mary Ann Reillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-63934428617048092032011-11-16T22:26:45.342-05:002011-11-16T22:26:45.342-05:00@anonymous,
I would concur. Being forced or feeli...@anonymous,<br />I would concur. Being forced or feeling like you are being forced can create conditions where learning is diminished. Agency accounts for so much. Thanks for posting.Mary Ann Reillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14349201167828984708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-58724503738455745622011-11-16T21:37:15.942-05:002011-11-16T21:37:15.942-05:00What an awesome post. Some states are interpreting...What an awesome post. Some states are interpreting the "suggestions" in the core standards as mandates. I remember more about literary texts than I do informational, though I'm proficient at reading informational texts. My teachers prepared me in a 20th century mindset, but it prepared me pretty well for the world I live in now. The NAEP scores alone should not be the impetus for MikeFisher821https://www.blogger.com/profile/09410966680338512226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2899447029099688486.post-74637093003801174062011-11-16T21:12:14.743-05:002011-11-16T21:12:14.743-05:00Excellent post! I think your key point is "I...Excellent post! I think your key point is "I used any and every method I knew to help my learners come to love reading: to find pleasure in it and then I could nudge them into deepening and broadening their reading repertoires." Once we develop confident, engaged, passionate readers, we can encourage them to tackle other writing. Not that we never expose our learners to different Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com